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What Do You Think of Newt's Stance on Immigration?

Newt Gingrich is coming to the Peninsula Friday for the GOP Convention. He wants to reform the immigration system, making it easier to deport criminals while making it easier for visitors and talented professionals to come to the U.S.

 

Newt Gingrich is coming to Burlingame this weekend to headline the California Republican Party spring convention. 

The presidential candidate has outlined his legislative proposals should he be elected into office.

One of those is to "Control the border by January 1, 2014 and establish English as the official language of government; reform the legal visa system, and make it much easier to deport criminals and gang members while making it easier for law abiding visitors to come to the US," according to his campaign website.

Does the immigration system need to be reformed, making it easier to deport criminals while making it easier for visitors and talented professionals to come to the U.S.?

Do you think English should be the official language for America?

Tell us in the comments.

Bren February 23, 2012 at 06:11 AM
Gary probably gets all his "facts" from Free Republic, Fox News, and Sean Hannity.
Kali February 23, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Gary, I agree with you 100%. Illegal Immigration is the biggest problem we have. I think Newt is right. We need to make it easier for people to come to this country that have not only learned English, but are smart and ready to work. Right now, most of our schools spend their time teaching ESL.. Even in College. If a student does not know English by then, well.. enough said.
Kali February 23, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Bren, prove Gary is wrong. Let's see your stat's.
Bren February 23, 2012 at 01:30 PM
Kali, the plural of stat is not stat's. You don't even know when to use an apostrophe, yet you presume to talk with us grown-ups about important issues?
Celeste B. February 23, 2012 at 04:40 PM
Calling somebody out about grammar mistakes Bren. Nice. Way to stick it to them. Bet that just burns and proves their points are invalid...
Marc Parent February 23, 2012 at 05:14 PM
Hilarious, English as a national language saves money in printing and translation costs for Ballots. Tax reform is also relevent, but why did Pres. Obama give a break to corporations last week, so much for the middle class? Then he wants more takes on those making 250K or more which is really 90% small business owners with Warren Buffett? Geez Barack where is the "Change" in that? Who cares about Newt anyway...is this the best the Patch can do?
Bren February 23, 2012 at 05:43 PM
Celeste, Kali never made a point, much less a valid one. What she fails to understand is that it was Gary who made the utterly absurd claim, so the burden of proof is on him. If Gary had said, "There's a unicorn in my back yard," and I had asked him for proof, would it then be reasonable for Kali to come along and challenge me to prove there isn't a unicorn in his back yard? Of course not. Kali fails at basic critical thinking, just as she fails as grammar. Given that this debate is partly about whether English should be our official language, I think any participant whose English grammar is so flawed has no room to talk.
Celeste B. February 23, 2012 at 06:31 PM
"Given that this debate is partly about whether English should be our official language, I think any participant whose English grammar is so flawed has no room to talk." Really? You're going there? So because of a misplaced apostrophe Kali isn't allowed to even be a participant of the debate? Restricting a forum or debate to only those that already meet the requirements for what one side is arguing for is, in this case, elitist. A legal nationalized immigrant who doesn't speak English is not allowed to debate on a national language? A redneck from the swamps of Louisiana isn't allowed to debate because they say "y'all" and that's bad English? Languages change. Grammar rules change. Contractions have only been allowed in usage guides since the 1920's. Before they were considered bad grammar. And I'll end with this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_contractions "Don't" can be used colloquially to mean "does not"; however, this is grammatically incorrect." You seem to not know all the rules of English grammar either Bren. Earlier you said, "You don't even know...". Seems somebody needs to leave the debate.
Bren February 23, 2012 at 09:06 PM
OK Celeste, fine. Let's forgive Kali for her poor grammar, and instead talk about her logical fallacy.
Bren February 23, 2012 at 09:07 PM
I've noticed Gary still hasn't cited any facts or sources to back up his claim. Perhaps you'd like to help him out with that?
Celeste B. February 23, 2012 at 09:15 PM
What? No. I think he's a loon. But if you're going to attack or dismiss someone, it should be for the crazy ideas they put forward, not because they can't type.
Phyllis McArthur February 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Oh Dogbert, you do know he had "restless leg syndrome"!
Dogbert February 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM
"What Do You Think of Newt's Stance on Immigration?" Just as long as it isn't a "wide stance". Wouldn't want another Congressman Craig...
Bucksnort February 23, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Here ya go, buddy. http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm
Bren February 24, 2012 at 12:46 AM
That does seem like a valid source, Gary, though I would want to see other content posted by that About.com guide before pronouncing him to be unbiased. I still reject the notion that illegal immigration is the reason we're in debt. That ten billion figure is nothing to sneeze at, but when you consider the fact that our state is currently in the hole to the tune of 265 billion... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/01/18/EDED1HA111.DTL ...it's hard to imagine that even deporting every single illegal alien and locking down our borders good and hard would ameliorate the problem. I also worry about the law of unintended consequences. Alabama's agribusiness has been greatly disrupted by their hardcore anti-immigrant legislation, for example.
Dogbert February 24, 2012 at 12:52 AM
"Oh Dogbert, you do know he had "restless leg syndrome"!" Phyllis, that's exactly the excuse I use when my owners catch me humping their houseguest's leg!
Roger Brina February 24, 2012 at 12:56 AM
The idea that the immigration system needs to be reformed so that it's easier to deport people is ridiculous considering that under S-COMM, Obama has deported over a MILLION people since taking office three years ago. This far outpaces the rate at which people were deported under previous, "right-wing" administrations, which is the reason why many Latino groups are upset with the President and why generally socially conservative members of the faith community like Archbishop Niederauer of San Francisco have taken official stands against S-COMM and this President's implementation of the policy. For Gingrich to be claiming we need to make it easier to deport criminals is rubbish: that's what we're already doing, except under S-COMM we're also deporting hard-working members of the community who have no criminal records but are picked up by law enforcement for minor, non-violent citations, including broken taillights and selling food without a permit. We need immigration reform, alright, but not in the way Gingrich would have you think.
Bren February 24, 2012 at 01:00 AM
I'm much more excited about Newt's stance on colonizing the moon. I seriously doubt we have the national will he would need to make good on his promise of having a permanent moon base established by the end of his second term, but we should definitely have such a goal. America's leadership in space has always been one of our crowning achievements, and a sing of our greatness. We need to get that back.
Conrad Peterson February 24, 2012 at 01:31 AM
Newt's goal of having a colony on the moon makes as much sense as painting the entire city of Omaha purple.
Phyllis McArthur February 24, 2012 at 01:51 AM
You are a riot! I almost choked on my soda, and messed up my keyboard! (A little warning please?)
Bren February 24, 2012 at 02:02 AM
Conrad, sooner or later, it is inevitable that our planet will be hit by a meteor/comet like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs. There are also numerous other factors which could cause an extinction event a lot sooner than that planet-killing asteroid's arrival. Therefore, it behooves us to leave a backup copy of human life on some remote storage medium. That's Mars, and if we want to colonize Mars, most experts agree that a permanent moon base will be an important stepping stone towards that goal.
Conrad Peterson February 24, 2012 at 04:26 AM
Like I said ...
Kali February 24, 2012 at 06:13 AM
Celeste, thank you for the posts above. Bren, do you even understand the word "Illegal"? Illegal, or unlawful, is used to describe something that is prohibited or not authorized by law. So basically you are saying our country should not be governed by laws. So how many illegal aliens ( they are not immigrants ) do you have working for you, Bren?
Bren February 24, 2012 at 06:50 AM
Kali, that's not fair; I cover all of my houseboy's living expenses.
d wave February 27, 2012 at 07:15 AM
yes - let's colonize the moon! neocons first, followed by texans!
d wave February 27, 2012 at 07:15 AM
i like purple. don't lock your self in here. it would make for great insurance ads!
d wave February 27, 2012 at 07:16 AM
touche' - oooh - dang, that's french. it's absolutely hilarious listening to these English only proponents - knowing they have never read Chaucer. And yes the california economy would be dead in the water without our friendly and capable neighbors to the south.
d wave February 27, 2012 at 07:20 AM
Gary - academic references count. This is the opinion of Robert Longley. From the about.com bio page: Robert holds a Bachelor of Science degree in landscape architecture, with and emphasis in urban and regional planning from Texas A&M University. So - you cite some Texan with a degree in landscape architecture. Ummm. that wont do.
d wave February 27, 2012 at 07:25 AM
bren - don't waste your time. Gary is citing the opinion of a single person - a landscaper who is probably afraid of losing his job to an immigrant. and are we surprised? Maybe he heard it on the AM radio too - who cares. The fact is that the California Economy would collapse without our friendly and capable neighbors from the south. see also http://www.caimmigrant.org/ see also http://www.ppic.org/main/policyarea.asp?i=8
d wave February 27, 2012 at 07:26 AM
thank you dogbert - for an opinion i actually care about!

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